Tales of the Con sits down with Comic book artists and Convention veterans Dave Beaty and Jan “The Janimal” Quisumbing. Dave is an independently published artist with previous credits on DC Comics series such as Batman Inc, Brightest Day, and Grifter to name a few. Jan is an independent comic creator/artist and founding member of the Northern Arizona Cartoonist Association – NAZCA.
The TOTC crew talks with independent film director Russ Emanuel. We met Russ at Phoenix FanFest where he and his team debuted the tie-in comic book to their award winning Scifi thriller film Occupants. Russ was a blast to talk to, we found out he goes just as deep as we do into movies, TV shows, and fan theories. We discussed the importance of movie soundtracks, our favorite films, conventions, Occupants, and his upcoming production titled The Assassin’s Apprentice.
Today’s episode features independent artist Gerimi Burleigh. Gerimi is a self published comic book artist and author from California. He has been a long time supporter of our website since it was just an idea. We had a great time with him discussing a wide variety of topics such as TV Shows, Movies, Anime, and of course Comic books. Visit Gerimi’s website at http://optichouse.com
Your hosts for this episode are: Jake, Chris, Fred, Sam, and, Mariano. Contains mature language and subject matter.
Skuba Steve and I were immediately interested in Dominic Davi’s booth at Modesto Con. His colorfully designed apparel featuring the lead singer of Tsunami Bomb with Medusa hair, a standup portrait of the creature from the black lagoon and a foldout of prints of classic movie monsters recast with period-accurate actors interested us wholeheartedly. As did the comics on his table – Tales from a Punk Planet and Come Find Me. One was collaboration between himself and Joe Escalante of TOTC favorites The Vandals and the other was his own creation, the beginning of a story he sees himself working on for quite a few years. Only later would we find out that Tsunami Bomb was actually one of the favorite bands of our guest contributor for Modesto Con that made us keenly interested in Mr. Davi, so Skuba Steve and I figured that above anyone else that we’d absolutely have to make time to score an interview with him. GG: So for starters, tell us a little about yourself. DD: I was born four score and seven years ago in a small log cabin in Illinois- GG: Too far back! DD: I’m an artist and writer. I just came out with a short story comic called come find me. I also illustrated a book called Fear of a Punk Planet with the bassist of The Vandals, Joe Escalante. I’m also the bassist for a band called Tsunami Bomb GG: How long have you been with Tsunami Bomb? DD: I started the band in 1998. It’s kind of a punk band with a bit of a twist. We have two female singers and keyboards; there’s a really dark quality to the music. We originally came out of the northern California scene, based out of a town called Petaluma, California. Early on the bands like AFI and Tiger Army took us under their wings and helped us out a lot. Hunter, the bassist for AFI even produced and put out our first solo 7”, but we had self released a split before that. So the band kind of has somewhat the same tone quality if you’ve never heard of those bands, that kind of dark and really catchy punk rock.
We were together for awhile, but even I left the band at one point. Though I had started it, I wasn’t on the last album they put out in 2004 and they broke up not long after that.
Fast forward to now, and Kung-Fu Records approached us about wanting to put out all of our early out of print stuff. They came up to us and were like “Hey…people still like you guys and they like your stuff! We’d like to put out all those EP’s that are out of print.” So all of the original members talked and we decided it was a good idea to have this stuff out. So we made this release and we called it, Trust No One, which is kind of a reference to all of us in the band actually letting the band itself down by letting it all fall apart. After doing this, most of us were like…”Y’know, we would really like to play again…and be a band again. Why not?”
However our singer, the singer who was the second main vocalist in Tsunami Bomb, but the one most people know, Agent M (aka Emily Whitehurst) was like ‘Y’know I don’t wanna come back, I’ve got my own thing and I’m focused on that.”
So after really debating it for a long time, we decided we might call it something else and do something a new band, like Flag did with Black Flag and still kind of harking back to what we used to be, but then we just said, fuck it, we are who we are, and we were lucky enough to find somebody amazing. Her name’s Kate and she’s taken over as main vocals along with the return of Oobliette, who was one of the original vocalists. Now we’ve just been doing it one step at a time and playing a lot of shows, and getting people to really warm up to us. Next month we’ll be playing the last two dates of Warped Tour, and we’ve also got a festival coming up with MXPX, Sick Of It All, and The Vandals called Remember the Punks in San Antonio, Tx.
Y’know, we’re just taking it one day at a time and working on new material, we’re gonna put out a new album next year so we’re pretty excited.
GG: Are comics something you’ve been doing as long as you’ve been doing Tsunami Bomb, or are they something that just grew out of some of the same passions?
DD: It kind of predates the band because I’ve always drawn and I’ve always illustrated, and like any kid that reads comic you’re kind of like ‘I wanna do my own comic’ at some point and you wonder if you could pull off your own idea. GG: Yeah every kid has that thought, like, ‘can I do this?’ DD: Yeah and like, I’ll tell anyone who’s thinking about it that it’s a real hassle. Comics take a lot of work! (laughter)
…but no finally one day a couple of years ago I started doing a webcomic called The Rock n’ Roll Palace of Love, a while back and it kind of got popular for a second and then sort of faded out. So that kind of warmed me up to saying fuck it, y’know I wanna put out something. I started working on my own zine and then while randomly talking with Joe Escalante one time at a show he was like ‘Well I have a story, wanna do a comic?’ Of course I did, so we did theFear of a Punk Planet comic and it actually sold out! It’s totally awesome and you can find it digitally on Comixology right now. Between the Vandals and my Band there was enough interest generated to have us completely sell out in the first printing.
Then after that, I just kept going, I put out the Come Find Me short story and now I’m working on a graphic novel called Green Teeth, and it’s gonna be about a bunch of Punk Skater kids in my hometown of Petaluma. I’ve been taking a lot of real life elements and mixing them with some made up elements. It’s a horror story that’s sort of like…something terrible is in the river and these kids figure out what’s going on and they have to deal with it.
GG: When you’re doing something like that and incorporating these real life elements…would you consider something like Green Teeth to be sort of semi-autobiographical or just some of the elements from where you grew up? DD: I would say actually both yeah. I’m kind of trying to take the way Stephen King approached his town of Derry, Maine, or how HP Lovecraft approached like…Providence and Arkham in Rhode Island. They made these worlds that were realistic but at the same time fictional, because they all had elements of streets and buildings and families that actually existed there and creating a fictional narrative within that setting. I’m kind of taking on the same thing. Y’know I grew up kind of skating around and hanging around the Phoenix Theatre, this punk venue in Petaluma. What these characters are doing is very much so connected to my experience and the experience of my friends. Come Find Me takes place in 2003 and Green Teeth takes place in 1993 but they reference each other very closely. SS: Yeah I like some of the hidden context in Come Find Me. I read that last night at the Hotel. DD: Yeah there’s definitely references in Come Find Me that call back to Green Teeth and vice-versa.
The Green Teeth incident that happened in ’93, was very big deal that happened in the town, especially if you were a punk or a skater a squatter or homeless. The situation of the river and the creature that was in the river really affects everything. It made sense to me that there would be writing referencing what happened. There’s other clues in Come Find Me that will be really obvious when you read them together. I will have individual issues for Green Teeth, but I think that when I collect it as a graphic novel, Come Find Me will be in that same collection.
GG: Would you see yourself doing anything besides Green Teeth set in maybe the same world and setting along with that after you’re done, or will that be the entire story you have to tell? DD: No there’s actually hidden references in Come Find Me to the next story after that. I don’t have a name for it yet, but like, I grew up kind of outside of town and there was this guy that was a neighbor of ours. He was this really lovable drunk farm boy guy who kind of helped everybody out. He sort of fascinated me as a character, and since I’m taking this world this town that I grew up in and the county around it and twisting it into a kind of horror theme…it kind of struck me as like, what if there was more to him than just being the kind of guy that would help you out at your ranch and fix your car? What if his family had a legacy as series of wardens that had to protect people in this area from these supernatural things? If things had fallen apart over time, where he’s now the only heir to that legacy, but he’s just this good-ol-boy drunk. I’m basing all of it off of real people I’ve met throughout my life, and I think in my head I’d like to see it as three short stories like Come Find Me and three long stories like Green Teeth. There will be like a trilogy essentially with each one having an intro with a short story. I’m hoping to be able to do a bunch of them. That when you read them all they call back and bounce back and forth, so you see different characters at different years. SK: Could you ever see yourself collaborating with someone else like Joe Escalante again? Or is it something you’ve done now and mostly wanna focus on working by yourself? DD: No I definitely would wanna collaborate. I’ve talked to Joe about doing more stuff because we were really happy with how Fear of a Punk Planet did. That’s just an obnoxious story about punk rock in the 90’s and his idea for the next issue is ridiculous. It continues to play upon the stereotypes of punk rock, but he’s also hit me up on another idea he’s had that would involve like…Mexico and vampires and the cartels. It was so completely insane that I was like ‘Yes I will totally draw this.’
It’s tough man, when you sign up for a comic like..I don’t do that full time. I have the band, I work as a professional artist. So it’s tough after a long day, I’ve already spent 8 hours illustrating and designing and then I’m like ‘now I have to work on a comic?’ so I think I’m a lot slower than a normal comic guy can be. I’m trying to force myself to stay on point and get it done.
I had to tell somebody today after they asked me if I wanted to collaborate. I’m like…hit me up after June 2017! I’m pretty much booked for awhile.
GG: It almost boosts that energy though.
DD: Yeah I wanna get done! I wanna be available for some other ideas. There’s some really cool ideas out there, there’s some really cool visions that it would be fun to bring about. I have to be realistic though otherwise I’ll just be another flaky jerk artist. Which I already am! GG: Aw DD: (laughter) Naw they all are. Every artist is a jerk! SK: -And I can imagine after being on the road touring and then having to sit down and illustrate a comic. That’s gotta be pretty difficult. DD: It is really difficult! It’s like, when I was professionally touring and that’s all I did it was awesome. That was my job and it was all I did and when I came home I was just a fucking couch potato and I didn’t have to worry about much because we only toured. As anyone who’s in a band knows, or as anyone who does anything knows, like you guys do this – it’s really hard to change gears. You do this and you get in this mode and then you’re like…now I gotta go work. GG: Yeah now I’ve gotta go sit behind a desk and be a faceless drone for eight hours a day until my next con. DD: Yeah! It’s hard. Even after this convention you shift back to your real life and you’re like…’nobody’s talking to me nobody really cares Especially comics because you’re by yourself for so much when you’re creating these worlds. You’re not hanging out doing it. It’s a solo experience. At least music when you do a show, like punk rock shows you have so many people.
GG: Even when you’re just jamming out at your house, you can have somebody else come over and knock a few beers back and come up with a song or something. But when you’re sitting there reading or making a comic…or you get to a point reading a really good comic and you’re like laughing, looking around your empty apartment like “Oh yeah there’s nobody here.” DD: I’ve literally done that! I’ve been like “This is awesome! This is-“ (looks around) “There’s nobody to talk to about this….” I’ll be like “dude! Did you read the latest issue of like whatever” and they’ll go “Yeah I…didn’t really do that” At least with movies you have more people talk to about it. Creating them too, I’ll like laugh to myself and go “Haha, this is awesome…ahh, I’m stupid and by myself.” It’s definitely a head trip to change gears all the time. I kind of do that to myself, it’s something I try to be aware of and lessen the effect as much as possible. Of course I haven’t picked up a pen to work on my own comics since the two weeks I got back from tour. It took me like a week to get back into normal things and then get ready for this, so I haven’t even stopped to work on it. So there’s two weeks gone.
The TOTC crew sits down with a guest who goes by the moniker The Classy Alcoholic. He’s on a mission to visit every single microbrewery and vineyard in Arizona. He details his travels on his blog http://theclassyalcoholic.net, his Instagram theclassyalcoholic, and on Facebook.
We hung out and talked about Craft Beers, horrible vodka experiments, movies, and martial arts.
We talked to Jim Hanna early in the day at Verde Valley Comic Expo – but we didn’t actually get around to interviewing him last. Hoping to make the procrastination worth it, our very own Sam Kittrel A.K.A. Glam Grimfire took the interview on personally to give our intern PB a break after running around the floor all day. Glam Grimfire – So Jim has come up here to Cottonwood for the Verde Valley Comic Expo and he’s worked on a whole bunch of things in the industry – it’s pretty likely our readers are familiar with him, but why don’t you tell me a little about what you’ve been up to lately? Jim Hanna – Lately is a book that I’ve worked on through “Contraband Comics” called Pugly starring my own dog. It’s about when this millionaire old lady dies and leaves all her money to her dog, and everybody is after the dog to get her money. So it’s kind of a silly thing. Like a Disney movie, but still pretty cool. (Please don’t sue us, Disney!)
Glam – It kind of reminds me of old Hollywood movies where they’d have capers like this. But you’ve also done some work outside of that, haven’t you? Jim – Red 5, and stuff for I.D.W. Publishing and Arcada Comics. I did a book called Philly through them. There’s also another book that’s coming out in a few months called Starpower and it’s going to be a paperback.
Glam – So you’ve obviously done some stuff all over, what was it that made you want to get into comics, Jim?
Jim – I think it was all of the cartoons growing up, loving to draw and reading comics actually. I think the first comic I ever got was like a G.I Joe comic. So from that I saw “oh! There’s other stuff!” There’s X-men and Spider-man, and that’s when I thought “People actually do this for a living!?” Then it just sort of sparked in me. Glam – So what are some of your creative influences?
Jim – Oh man there’s so many! When I was a kid I’d get so many of the old-school comics. So I was a big Jack Kirby fan growing up. There’s tons of artists that influence me now form Joe Maduera to Shawn Murphy. There was just a ton of styles that I wanted to emulate. There’s so many artists now that keep upping the bar! Once you feel like “Oh I’m so good.” You’re never gonna get better.
Glam – Yeah, you’ve kind of got to hold onto some humility.
Jim – Oh you need to, it’s hard to find an artist who doesn’t hate their work. You always gotta try to keep it fresh for yourself.
Glam – So is there any place creatively you feel like you’d still want to take your work? Jim – For years and years I did a very cartoonish style, now I want to push further into more and more detail. Like, keep the style but add more to flesh it out and give it that edge. Like with the Pug Book! I pushed more for a realistic style because I felt like a cartoon style would be a little too ridiculous for the story. Yeah, I hope to push for a more realistic style the further I go, but it also depends on the type of comic I’m doing.
Glam – Well it really was fantastic to talk to you, Jim! Thank you for your time.
We met with artist Daniel Bradford who’s an amazing self published comic artist from the Tucson area who was kind enough to exchange a story with our lovely and talented point-man, PB. PB: Can you tell me a little bit about yourself?
Daniel Bradford: I’m the creator and artist behind titles such as “Robot 13” “King” and “Disappointing Monsters.” All self published, all my own work. PB: What’s the latest thing you’ve worked on?
DB: That’d be “Disappointing Monsters.” It’s a web/print comic, but I’ve also been designing my own stickers, working on “Robot 13” it just depends on the day.
PB: I’ve noticed that you have a very unique art style, what are some of the artists that inspired you to work towards having such an interesting style?”
DB: Early on I absorbed everything I could get from Mike Mignola. Earlier than that, my work was inspired heavily from Stephen Gammell who was the artist for all the “Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark” books, but as I grew as an artist, I gathered more inspirations as my art style continue to develop and eventually get a fingerprint of its own.
PB: So sort of why I’m here is to get this one question out that I have: What’s your most interesting con story from any kind of convention?
DB: A buddy of mine, we were walking the floor together and we both had to use the bathroom pretty badly. We both found what we THOUGHT was the bathroom line for the mens room, but it ended up being the line for Tera Patrick. PB: How long were you in that line?
DB: Probably about 20 minutes.
DB: It occurred to us that we actually passed the bathroom and then found we were in line for a Porn Star.
PB: What con was this?
DB: The San Diego one I believe, That’s probably the craziest con story I have. My cons can be pretty uneventful!
PB: Well thank you for your time! You have kick ass boots by the way (We didn’t get a picture!)
Our current intern and Point Man for Verde Valley Comic Expo was the lovely (and talented) PB who spent all of the day working the show floor for us while we coordinated with guests and arranged interviews for him. Today he’s bringing you an interview with Dave Beaty. Beaty has been in the comic book industry since 1994. Mostly known for his work with DC, you’ll find his handiwork in comics such as Batman Inc, Grifter, and more. He’s currently working on the self produced Bushi Tales and is one of the organizers of Verde Valley Comic Expo.
PB: I was reading Bushi Tales, the comic you handed me at the first panel, and it said on the inside of the front page that your nickname was “Dave (is it done yet?) Beaty” could you explain how exactly you got that nickname?
Dave Beaty: “Well my friend Len and his workman who loves a lot of the old Marvel Comics nicknames like Jazzy John Romita so he put that out to be humorous, but at the same point we’re trying to get the deadline and I kept bugging him like “Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet!?” so he kind of put that in the credits to razz me a little bit. PB: That’s awesome. So, I was sort of wondering, is there anything you learned from indie comics that you didn’t learn from working for a company like DC?
DB: Actually most of what I was able to accomplish at DC I learned DOING indie comics. Matter of fact, it was because of my work on Bushi Tales that my friend Scott who I assisted in the past with Alpha Flight as a ghost (an uncredited artist) at first. He really didn’t take me seriously about wanting to do comics for some reason even though I worked with him on Alpha Flight for a year, but when he saw me self publishing Bushi Tales and getting out there he was like “Ok, you’re really serious about doing this.” So he kinda saw me in a different light, and that’s what led me to working on Justice League and everything after that.
PB: So since we’re know as “Tales of The Con” I was wondering if you could give us one more crazy story of a Con you went to, or maybe bring up that story about Dragon Con that you couldn’t talk about in your panel earlier.
DB: Well I’m just gonna say that Dragon Con is a pretty crazy party con, but that’s really for another time. What I can do is re-tell the story from the panel.
PB: Thad’t be perfect.
DB: Alright, I was at “Anime Con” in Memphis TN and I went to one of my favourite restaurants in the area, I was very excited about that, but I had gotten food poisoning from it and I was very, very sick. So about afternoon of the convention I couldn’t stay on the floor and sketch for people anymore so I went up to my hotel room. I was passed out, my wife actually went out because I have family in Memphis so my wife went out with my family members to keep them entertained and visit and whatever. So I was literally in the hotel room sick, passed out, I wasn’t going anywhere. At some point (I don’t know how long it’d been) I just woke up and the TV had been left on and it was a disaster movie of course. I heard these weird sounds and I thought “OK, it’s just this weird disaster movie.” And that’s when I noticed the flickering lights in the room, and I was like “great, someone’s pulled the fire alarm.” Because normally it’s never actually a fire, someone’s PULLED the alarm. So anyhow I got up, sick as a dog, went out and of course you can’t use the elevator so you gotta use the stairs.
PB: What floor were you on?
DB: I don’t remember exactly, but I know we were at least above the twentieth.
PB: Oh god.
DB: Yeah I remember it was a hell of a walk down, and so, I get in the stairwell, there’s all of these other people you know, stumbling down the stairs we’re all going down. There was this one old lady, I swear she was gonna have a heart attack and she was never gonna make it to the bottom! We get all the way down to the bottom, we’re all standing around in the parking lot and it’s summer in Memphis. It’s humid, it’s hot, and everyone’s miserable. Some people looked like they were gonna throw up in the bushes. I’m just looking for some place to die, and in CLASSIC ANIME FASHION, one of the kids has a guitar, and starts walking up and down singing “We didn’t start the fire.”
PB: That’s great, thank you for sharing that!
DB: No problem.
PB: Now I have to say, I’ve been walking around here and I’m seeing all the people and all the kids having so much fun in a town that really doesn’t have that much stuff going on for youths. I really have to say thanks for helping orchestrate this. I really think everyone around here really appreciates this.
DB: Cool! I really hope everyone around here had a really great time. I know I want to do it again next year, kudos to my friend Jan (thejanimal.com) who also is a really important part to this convention, and helped me to organize this so hopefully we’ll be able to continue this again.